1. 22:35 13th Aug 2010

    Legalized same sex marriage was not the cause, but the symptom of the disease, which, like pneumonia in an HIV positive patient, tolled the final bell on the civilizations of Europe.
    To reiterate and clarify for the curious, the disease which legalized same sex marriage compounds - and guarantees state protection for - is the notion that marriage is separate from parenthood. This experiment had already been conducted in Europe. Again, see the statistics in the NYT articles below. The population of Europe is vanishing, because its people choose not to procreate. If this were evolutionary theory, same sex marriage could be likened to fork in the road at which the ancestors of the dodo bird opted to stop flying.
    It may seem a trivial matter - “what is it to me if two men want to marry?” It is not so much what it means to you, but what it means to the future.
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    wing & a prayer: Prop-8: an opinion.

    Craig, I won’t respond to this exact quote, I will let it stand as it is. Because I believe that it speaks volumes about who you are as a person, as well as your argument.

    As much as I have enjoyed responding to your post, I can’t help but feel like I’ve been wasting my time. What I have written will not enlighten you any more on this topic. It will not change your views or beliefs. In fact, I would not expect you to understand or even tolerate homosexuality. Because you have clearly exhibited that you cannot even grasp the basic ideas of love and marriage.

    Through your cold and surgical dissection of the institution of marriage, you managed to illustrate that no, you are not a bigot, you are just ignorant. Not of facts. You seem to be well read and have strong convictions. But you clearly don’t know shit about love. And you don’t know a goddamn thing about marriage. Anyone who refers to a married couple who does not have children as “roommates” clearly does not understand what it means to truly share a life with another person. As such, I don’t believe that you should have any say in how I live my life or choose to love the woman I marry someday. Because the way you look at marriage is not how I would EVER choose to live. And I would suspect that you would never want to live in my household. One where I weigh the needs of myself and my wife as equal. Where we decide together when and how to welcome a child into this world. Where perhaps we choose to adopt a child who needs a better life, rather than creating a child of our own. Those are OUR choices. Not yours. And I would not come into your home and tell you how to live. That is the beauty of this nation. It is for those reasons that neither you, nor I, should have any right to deny homosexuals those same rights to love, life, and privacy. To live their lives the way it makes sense for them. Not out of some paranoid fear of the end of days.

    If the fall of humanity, as you so hysterically hinted at, comes because of our own free will, due to our own yearning for happiness and liberty, then so be it. If the very destruction of mankind comes because we choose to spend our lives with people who make us happy, from the decisions that we have made to better our lives, then that is a fate that I am willing to live with. Because life wouldn’t be worth living if I couldn’t choose how I wanted to live it or who I wanted to spend it with.

    But guess what? This isn’t going to lead to the apocalypse. We as a species will not disappear due to this. Many people understand that, and many more learn that every day. And that is why, no matter how much you try to scare us, no matter how paranoid and exploitative your apocalyptic predictions become, homosexuals deserve to get married, and will be able to someday very, very soon.

    (via thegreg)

    Greg’s responses to the entire original post are phenomenal.